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Flagstaff Dark Skies Coalition Won’t Let Facts Get In The Way Of Their Propaganda

By Elisha Dorfsmith

In March I volunteered my time helping set up for Flagstaff’s Dark Sky event in Heritage Square. It was a big success and a fun event. I appreciate and value Flagstaff’s Dark Skies and the astronomy opportunities that Flagstaff provides. In short, I support Flagstaff’s Dark Skies programs.

What I don’t support, however, are lies and misrepresentation of facts to accomplish a goal. Unfortunately, that is exactly what I found when I visited the Flagstaff Dark Skies Coalition Facebook page yesterday. On that page there were claims that the City of Flagstaff was making an exception to the dark skies rules by voting to allow the Aspen Heights student housing project.

This was a false accusation and I explained that under current zoning, there was a potential for this property to use over 900,000 lumens. The Aspen Heights Development has agreed to be capped at 205,000 lumens. Well under the maximum allowed by the dark skies ordinances.

I also posted the following screen shot from a City Staff report showing how much light could be used without the re-zone and told them that council would never even get the opportunity to have a say in any rural residential project.


City slide showing maximum lumens currently allowed (click photo to enlarge).

They responded by saying hypothetical or potential light is not light and that I was crazy for suggesting that something over 205,000 lumens would ever be built on that property. I replied that they were naive to think the property would never be developed and on a scale of 0-920,000 lumens, 205,000 lumens was on the lower end of the spectrum.

They replied by quietly blocking me from posting on their page and deleting my comments. Seems my facts were getting in the way of their propaganda.

  1. David Koerner
    November 21, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Single residence zoning, as is currently the case, is far less light-polluting than the proposed Aspen Heights rezoning for a multi-resident (791 bodies!) student complex. That’s the “fact” that you are ignoring in *your* propaganda.

    • November 21, 2014 at 5:39 pm

      Again, you refuse to consider the facts. RR zoning allows up to 920,000 lumens. Single Family is allowed up to 360,000 lumens. Aspen Heights is capped at 205,000 lumens. It is naive to think that Single Family will be less than 205,000. How is this so hard to understand?

    • November 23, 2014 at 4:29 pm


      • ExMeMaw
        November 23, 2014 at 4:39 pm

        Anyway, it is sad that there is no consensus on issues that we all agree are important to the community, such as retaining our dark sky’s commitment in the context of community growth.

  1. November 23, 2014 at 11:55 am

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