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State Rep. Bob Thorpe Introduces Bill With Teeth To Protect 2nd Amendment

By Elisha Dorfsmith

State Representative Bob Thorpe, along with four other Arizona representatives, introduced a strongly worded 2nd Amendment protection bill last week titled HB 2291 Arizona firearms; prohibited enforcement.

The primary objective of this bill is to protect all firearms, ammunition and accessories that are manufactured in Arizona from Federal laws and regulation, as long as those firearms, ammunition and accessories stay within the state of Arizona.

The Full text of HB 2291 can be found HERE.

There are a lot of pro 2nd Amendment bills being introduced across the country and in Arizona but what makes HB 2291 different is that it has teeth and ensures that those who work to deny 2nd Amendment rights to Arizonans are guilty of a class 6 felony. This includes both state and federal agents.

With a massive Federal attack on gun rights, it will be largely up to the States to make a stand and protect our freedom. Please take a moment to thank State Representative Bob Thorpe for introducing this legislation.

You may also want to contact your Arizona State Representatives and ask them to sponsor this bill. Contact info for Arizona State Representatives can be found HERE.

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Flagstaff’s newest firearm dealer, the 2nd Amendment Store recently opened their doors. As their name suggests, the store specializes in everything firearms including ammo and gun accessories. The 2nd Amendment Store is located at 2500 S Woodlands Village Blvd. #25.

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  1. January 21, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Do we actually have firearms, ammunition and accessories that are wholly manufactured in Arizona? If so, how do we find a list of such?

    • Travis Estes
      January 21, 2013 at 10:38 am

      Yes, Ruger has a factory in Prescott

      • January 21, 2013 at 10:49 am

        Yes, there are several. I’ll try to track down a list of some kind and post it.

  2. Nancy
    January 21, 2013 at 10:47 am

    I applaud the effort, and will thank Mr. Thorpe for it, but the only way this becomes law is when fair-weather federalist and Tea(ocon) Party darling Jan Bewer is no longer Governor. She will absolutely veto it, since she has proven time and time again that state bureaucrats are more important to her than the natural rights of us mundanes (as you know!: https://flagliberty.wordpress.com/2012/05/15/brewer-vetoes-sb1182-anti-ndaa-bill/).

  3. Diane
    January 21, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    This is another waste of money and time, tilting at windmills that don’t exist. The proposal for universal background checks is reasonable and sensible and long-overdue. NOBODY is talking about taking away your guns that are legally owned, and nobody needs assault weapons or high-capacity clips except law enforcement and military. This is a blatant appeal to the radical right who think it is fun to fight the feds at every turn, and I will notify my representatives that I hope they ignore such silliness. Let’s focus on the economy, jobs, and education.

    • January 21, 2013 at 8:36 pm

      Interesting. You say “NOBODY is talking about taking away your guns that are legally owned.” And in the next breath you say “Nobody needs assault weapons or “high-capacity clips” except law enforcement and military.” Do you realize that “assault weapons” and “high-capacity clips” are legally owned and you’re talking about taking them away?

    • JL
      January 21, 2013 at 11:06 pm

      Wow, how destitute of any logic, or connection to reality. Yes my dear they ARE trying to take our guns. Just listen to Diane Feinstein, Eric Holder, Rahm Emanuel, Chuckie Schumer et. al. Oh, and this “no one needs” argument is a logical fallacy. The second amendment is about the individual’s right and duty to defend against tyranny. Yes we need standard capacity magazines 20-30 rounds (please don’t call them clips this indicates some substantial ignorance on the topic). We also NEED semi-automatic firearms ( please don’t call them assault weapons, which are selective fire and very highly regulated already and not available to the general public. Again showing a definite lack of knowledge on the subject) to defend liberty.

  4. Diane
    January 22, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Don’t patronize. The terms used are general reference rather than wasting space with specific weapons and “magazines” as you prefer. And nobody is talking about taking away weapons already owned. That is the problem with your inflammatory rhetoric – and your need to stockpile weapons to “defend against tyranny” is ludicrous. I’m sure you have a brand-new white cowboy hat to wear for the revolution in your mind. Give me one good reason why you would oppose closing the gun show loophole and requiring universal background checks? Forget the bans, just this one step?

    • JL
      January 22, 2013 at 9:32 pm

      OK Diane let’s start from the top shall we?

      “Don’t Patronize” :

      Well if you read what I wrote you will see that I’m not patronizing in the least, I’m simply disagreeing with you while pointing out a few flaws in your statements and the lack of logic. However you should really learn not to scold. (Oh sorry I suppose THAT was a bit patronizing, forgive me)

      “The terms used are general reference rather than wasting space with specific weapons and ‘magazines’ as you prefer.”:

      First, I was unaware that we had limited space here. Second and much more importantly words mean things. When you incorrectly use a term like “Assault Weapon” you conjure up something that is not at all accurate. Semi-auto rifles are considered to be “Sporting Arms” or at most “Defensive Weapons”. Assault weapons are capable of full auto fire. Misuse of words is often used for political ends. Perhaps you are familiar with this effect. For instance the President talks about “collateral damage” when referring to the deaths of Pakistani children in his frequent drone strikes, instead of the more accurate and less obtuse “Murder of Innocents”.

      “And nobody is talking about taking away weapons already owned.”:

      http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/01/20/NY-Assemblyman-exposes-gun-confiscation-agenda-of-Democrats

      http://www.examiner.com/article/new-york-gov-cuomo-supports-gun-confiscation
      There are a bunch more you can look them up if you are interested in learning the truth.

      “That is the problem with your inflammatory rhetoric”:

      Sorry, inflammatory rhetoric? Do you mean that by disagreeing with you I inflamed your ire? Honestly I see nothing “inflammatory” in what I wrote, in fact it was rather sedate. Did you just hear the term before and were looking for an opportunity to use it? Its not appropriate here (sorry patronizing again?)

      “and your need to stockpile weapons to ‘defend against tyranny’ is ludicrous.”:

      Let’s see, Strawman argument, tainted with hyperbole. I don’t have a need to “stockpile weapons”, and I did not say that I did.

      “Ludicrous”?:

      What is? That YOU think I have a need to stockpile weapons or did you just want to be a bit patronizing yourself? BTW calling something ludicrous, silly, ridiculous, etc. is not good argumentative form. Known in rhetoric as the “appeal to ridicule” it has no place in a cogent, logical argument.

      If you simply mean that you believe that Tyranny can not arise in our nation at some time in the future then I’m afraid you need to go back and study a bit of history.

      “I’m sure you have a brand-new white cowboy hat to wear for the revolution in your mind.”:

      Poorly executed Ad hominem, no other response needed.

      Lastly the so called “Gun Show loophole”, before I respond to this why don’t you describe to me what you think this “loophole” is. Then we can go form there.

    • Nancy
      January 23, 2013 at 1:39 pm

      Why is it “ludicrous,” Diane? Just look at the Democide of the last century, which always began with gun registration, then gun confiscation. The Imperial President has claimed the power to indefinitely detain American citizens, as well as assassinate anyone he sees fit (and he has). The American people are being surveilled to an extend that Stalin and Hitler only dreamed of. A former NSA operative said, “We are…that far from a turnkey totalitarian state.” (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/%E2%80%9Cwe-are-far-turnkey-totalitarian-state-big-brother-goes-live-september-2013)

      If “it can’t happen here,” I would sure as hell like to know why the USG feels it needs to completely destroy the BoR, and claim such dictatorial power for itself. Recently, CONgress couldn’t even bring itself to reaffirm the 4th Amendment!

      These are floors, not ceilings, Diane. Look at the liberties that the Ruling Class has destroyed in 10 short years, and then ask yourself what the hell this country is going to look like in 20 years.

      The statists have had a lot of success with their incrementalism, so stop pretending like the end game isn’t confiscation and completely disarming the citizenry.

      Also, there is no “gun show loophole.” You sound like the politicians who regulating things that they don’t even have an elementary understanding of. Like this dumb broad:

      • John
        January 23, 2013 at 2:09 pm

        Well said Nancy.

  5. Diane
    January 23, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Gosh JL, I guess you’ve really put this little ol’ girl in her place. I won’t waste your time (or mine) responding to your pompous diatribe, nor will I bother with Nancy after seeing her comment about the Imperial President. Ya’ll have fun in your little tiny world, fighting the big bad government and the “Ruling Class.”

  6. Bill Tippett
    January 26, 2013 at 8:03 am

    Because you’re so above it all, right Diane? Pomposity usually resides in the beholder.

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