Proposed PMO Worse Than Expected

By Elisha Dorfsmith

“The PMO is NOTHING like the posts that I have read regarding individuals being fined for chipped paint on fences…” — Flagstaff Councilwoman Coral Evans

“Conditions of (fence) disrepair are inclusive of, but not limited to; Peeling Paint, deteriorated paint or materials…” — Proposed PMO (7-01-002-0001)

Over the past few months I have been trying to warn Flagstaff residents about the far reaching consequences of a Property Maintenance Ordinance. I knew it was going to be bad but I had no idea how bad until I acquired a copy of the Final Staff Administrative Draft for the Flagstaff PMO Review Group. Every home and business in the City of Flagstaff is in violation of one or more of the rules in the proposed ordinance.

Flagstaff City Council candidate Jeff Oravits does a great job of explaining just how much this proposed ordinance will affect you in his must read article titled:

Flagstaff Proposes Far Reaching Property Maintenance Ordinance

Flagstaff’s proposed PMO is part of a much larger national agenda to implement the International Property Maintenance Code. Cities and towns around the country are busy writing and passing IPMC laws which have zero respect for private property and personal freedom.

Thankfully, citizens across the country are fighting back and while it’s often an uphill battle, there have been some victories.

Last week, residents in Upper Tyrone Township in Pennsylvania showed up in force to protest implementation of the International Property Maintenance code there and the town backed down and decided not to move ahead with their PMO.

These residents said they were concerned that the ordinance could fine them for not having screens on their windows, having bedrooms that were too small, or not setting their thermostat at the right temperature. Most importantly, they were furious that their private property rights were being taken away in the name of health and safety (even though there are already laws on the books that protect them from health and safety concerns).

I have talked to several people in Flagstaff who told me that the text of Flagstaff’s proposed PMO is the last straw and they are now ready to get involved and try to stop this anti freedom ordinance…even if it has to be taken to referendum. I hope my readers will contact the Council and Mayor and tell them not to pass this monstrosity.

Link to proposed PMO

For further reading, please see:

Flagstaff Nanny Council Moves Forward With Proposed PMO

What Is The Real Agenda Behind A PMO

Flagstaff’s Proposed PMO Is About Control Not Safety

Visit the Flagstaff Liberty Alliance Website:

  1. March 20, 2012 at 8:53 am

    Here’s a story about a guy who was arrested for a siding violation on his house:

  2. March 21, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Contact Joe Ferguson and let him know what you think. His email is in the article:

  3. March 26, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    I received a phone call from Mr. Eastman at 12:05 pm today in response to this letter.

    In a nutshell he said that he would prefer that the public NOT attend the PMO Review Group Meetings and that they were not expecting the public to show up in the first place.
    I said I thought that was rather short sighted considering how controversial it is to the citizens of Flagstaff…which by the way Mr. Eastman is NOT a resident of Flagstaff.

    He said that the Arizona Open Open Meeting Laws do NOT apply to the Review group and I do NOT have the right to be present.
    I asked him what A.R.S. Law he was quoting and he said he did not know the Code.
    I said “You sure are quick to quote a Law you cannot site.” Then I said that IF he could provide me with the law the says I do not have the right to be at a meeting that is to affect what Civil and Constitutional Rights of mine and the rest of this community have, that I will be at those meetings.

    He said that is not the way he wants it and that if it has to be that way then he will put up with the public being present.
    I asked him again to PLEASE provide me with the A.R.S. Laws in writing so that I could see for myself.
    He then said that he had no intention of putting anything in writing to me and that telling me on the phone that I do not have the right to be there is good enough for him.

    Rather leaves us with the He Said/She Said “no proof” way out for Mr. Eastman.

    So I got a bit hot and said “Listen buddy, until I see for a fact that I do not have the right to be at those meetings, consider me there, in your face!”
    He also said that the next meeting has NOT been scheduled and that it will most likely be after the 04-05-2012 05:00 pm Public Meeting in the City Council Chambers.
    I asked if he thought that was very reasonable since the review group did not finish going over the PMO yet and the Council would be wanting a complete review. He said no they are not expecting that and it can wait.

    Hmm, anyone want to guess what evening they will schedule this week?
    There is a Candidate Forum on Thursday March 29th at 05:30 pm at the Radisson…let’s hope they do NOT choose that one evening when so many that I know of would like to be at both places.

    Since Roger Eastman says that he would prefer the public NOT be present and that the Arizona Open Meeting Laws to NOT give us the right to be there, why does he not enforce it?

    Yes, time will tell if he is being honest. My husband at least heard my end of the conversation and the things I repeated to Mr Eastman to make sure I had heard HIM correctly.

    I told him I will expect to be notified of the meeting time and he said he had no obligation to me but that the public in general would be told.
    We shall see…..

    Dear Mr. Eastman,

    As per my Rights as a Citizen of Flagstaff, Arizona, I am formally requesting that I be notified of the next time, date and place of the Proposed PMO Review Group Meeting and any subsequent meetings that may come about.

    Since you will be making recommendations that will effect my Civil and Constitutional Rights as a Citizen of Flagstaff, I feel very strongly that I need to be present to see what revisions and direction this Proposed PMO will take.

    Since there was also a concern about making sure the Fire Safety/Occupation Codes are observed, I am hereby informing you in writing that I personally know of at least 55 (fifty-five) other, very concerned Citizens that plan on being in attendance to listen, take notes and record the meeting(s).

    Arizona Open Meeting Law A.R.S. 38-431
    I’m fairly sure I do not need to quote my rights to you, but for the public that will be reading this also,
    I include the link so they may read the Law and know their Rights for themselves.

    Yes, I am sending a copy of this letter to the Daily Sun and a few others. As well as posting it on my facebook page for the public to view, as evidence that I have made a formal request to you in writing. There are also a few Political Blogs that the Citizens of Flagstaff subscribe to that I will be sharing a copy of this with.

    With that in mind, there could easily be another crowd show up to accompany the 55 I know of.
    Respectfully Sir, I ask that you take these possible numbers of attendance into consideration when choosing the venue for this Proposed PMO Review Group Meeting.

    If I have misunderstood the Law, I would appreciate if it could be pointed out with a thorough explanation.

    Most Sincerely,

    Mrs. Donna L. Creamer
    Flagstaff, Arizona

  4. March 28, 2012 at 8:13 am

    Yeah, a reply in writing!

    To me this is a sign of Accountability…
    : the quality or state of being accountable; especially : an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one’s actions

    Thanks, Donna,

    We are planning extensive coverage of the PMO.

    Randy Wilson

  5. August 17, 2013 at 11:47 pm

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