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Mixed Response To Ron Paul At Flagstaff Tea Party

By Elisha Dorfsmith

A small group of Ron Paul supporters attended the June 7, 2011 Flagstaff Tea Party meeting to hand out literature and bumper stickers. For the most part, the response from the tea party was friendly and positive and most attendees were very receptive. I noticed a couple people wearing Ron Paul buttons as they walked out and others left with Ron Paul 2012 bumper stickers.

At the end of the meeting I was handed a handwritten note in response to our literature from one of the tea party members. It said:

“Ron Paul also:

Supports legalizing drugs.

Supports abortion being legal.

Supports prostitution.

Supports delegalizing marriage.

I support states’ rights–but these things need to be national laws for consistency between states. I find Ron Paul immoral. Our founders would roll over in their graves to see these supported.”

Obviously, this person does not understand states’ rights, the Constitution, the philosophy of liberty or the positions of Ron Paul. I hate to say it but this is the mentality we’re up against.

We’re going to need all the help we can get combating the lies, smears and attacks from those who hate liberty. I hope readers of this blog will join the Flagstaff Ron Paul 2012 Facebook page and get involved in the local grassroots Ron Paul campaign.

Ron Paul bumper stickers and literature at the Flagstaff Tea Party.


  1. don
    June 8, 2011 at 7:10 am

    Jefferson smoked Opium, Franklin frequented prostitutes and there was no legal definition of marriage. I think a history lesson is in order.

  2. June 8, 2011 at 7:35 am

    Agreed. If the founders are rolling in their graves it’s because the federal government has trampled the Constitution and taken away our personal liberty.

    News to tea party lady: the founders were not saints with halos who believed the role of the federal government is to force their version of morality on people.

    Someone needs to write an article on how many current federal laws the founders broke and add up how many life sentences they would have had to spend in prison if these laws had existed back then.

  3. C
    June 8, 2011 at 8:22 am

    The issue of whether or not the founders would find Ron Paul’s positions on abortion, etc. disagreeable is largely irrelavent at this point. We could talk about what the founding fathers intended or would want ad nauseum, but the fact remains that he is a contemporary thinker and is basing his positions on a reasonable understanding and interpretation of the U.S. Constitution.

    I think the larger question should be whether or not our society is in agreement with his positions using the Constitution as a foundation. The founders had many different viewponts on a whole host of issues, I think we should be viewing Ron Paul’s ideas in the same light rather than nitpick about whether the “founders,” as a whole, would agree or not agree with him.

  4. BrendenR
    June 8, 2011 at 8:48 am

    Thanks for getting out there! I’ll be doing the same!

  5. libertypolitics
    June 8, 2011 at 8:48 am

    Elisah (Great name and great prophet!),

    I commend you for your efforts in yoru local tea party and spreading the message of liberty, and representing your candidate where it might not be the most friendly place to do so.

    The only thing I’d advise in dealing with this (which should be expected) is to POLITICALLY IGNORE these types of people, but be PERSONALLY FRIENDLY and polite to them (See Proverbs 25:21-22).

    Then just focus your efforts on reaching the uninformed voter that’s not a poltiical activsts because in the grand scheme of things those smear artists will certainly not determine who wins the vote in your county.

    Run your grassroots campaign as a traditional campaign, and focus first and foremost on your precinct because winning a presidential primary is essentially just a bunch of grassroots supporters organizing their own winning campaigns inside of their precinct. GOOD LUCK!

  6. George Washington
    June 8, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Mr. Ron Paul for 2012 Republican Nom and President.
    -Strengthen our USD
    -No Inflation
    -Balance the Budget
    -No Mandated Healthcare
    -Creates MANY JOBS
    -New Crop Industries
    -Free Market
    -Very Pro Life
    -No Bailout
    -No Patriot Act
    -Stays out of foreign DOMESTIC AFFAIRS, but contract/trade with all
    -No Unjustified War with no objectives (Currently they are the longest lasting, most expensive, most unproductive wars in American History)
    -Brings our Troops Home after over 10 YEARS OF FIGHTING!!!!
    The USA could have fought WWII twice in 10 years!
    Please, let’s bring America’s Troops home. They deserve it.
    Leave the Middle East, and all other Nations that are agreed to be sovereign, ALONE with regard to DOMESTIC AFFAIRS.

    American Lives are NOT toys.

    Bring our Troops Home
    I am a Ron Paul Republican
    Mr. Ron Paul 2012 for Republican Nom and President

  7. Mitch
    June 8, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Jefferson was a slave banger. What does that uneducated ‘Tea Party’ chick say to that?

  8. Dan
    June 8, 2011 at 11:38 am

    I think it’s best to stay with facts, as “being a saint” is subjective, and changes with time.
    Our founding fathers were very saint like in the eyes of many, and might have been saints in the culture of the time, but that does little to disprove her thinking.
    Fact: It is not within the constitution to force belief structures or prosecute based on beliefs and/or religion.
    Fact: Ron Paul is not for legalizing drugs or legalizing prostitution. Ron Paul is for ending the failed drug war that turns peaceful people into violent criminals and cops into liberty trashing hawks. Ron Paul is for ending the expensive waste of time it takes to exploit non violent people and jail them. Ron Paul is for a police force that protects liberties instead of seeing every individual as a possible suspect.
    Fact: Marriage is a right, for all individuals.
    Fact: Ron Paul want’s the government to quit wasting your money telling you how to live your life, what you can and can not do with your body, and what you are able to do on your own property.
    Fact: Ron Paul believes abortions should be left up to the states, and if not, the doctor-patient relationship.
    Fact: Ron Paul will never push his belief structure on you, because that is no the role of the federal government.

    Liberty is the right to live however you see fit, and do whatever you want on or with whatever you own, as long as it does not infringe on anyone doing the same. This is what our forefathers fought for, and I have never restrained from cursing so hard in my life as I did writing this little blurb.

    These people……

  9. Pam
    June 22, 2011 at 2:47 am

    Wow! I see it something like this…

    Ron Paul:

    Supports ending failed and costly prohibition policy (War on Drugs) that fuels a black market, feeds the prison-for-profit system, and breaks up families who might otherwise be unharmed.

    Supports the right for each state to ban abortion, if that’s what the people of the state choose. Why take a tiger by the tail by trying to ban abortions at federal level?

    Supports dealing with prostitution using alternatives to government force. A famous example: Jesus preached the Gospel to Mary Magdalene (“repentant sinner of ill repute”). Prostitution is an issue for the Church, not the state.

    Supports restoring marriage back to being a contract between man & woman -or- man, woman, and church – as it was originally.

  10. June 22, 2011 at 5:30 am

    are any of you here real supporters of Ron Paul? do you want our message to get out? stopping doing crap like this it only hurt his chances. If you want to talk about this crap wait until he is nominated god people talk about shooting your self in the foot…….

  1. June 22, 2011 at 1:53 pm

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