Raising The Debt Cap

By Elisha Dorfsmith

At last night’s Flagstaff Tea Party meeting, the question came up: What position should the tea party take on raising the debt ceiling?

If the three core values are any indication, the answer should have been obvious. The tea party defends Constitutionally Limited Government, Fiscal Responsibility and Free Markets.  After a little discussion, the consensus of the group seemed to be that the debt cap should NOT be raised. I have to admit that I was worried there for a second when the question was asked.

As the new congress is being sworn in today, we are starting to hear some funny things from the “conservatives”.  Some are saying they need to temporarily raise the debt cap. Their fear is that  the U.S. credit rating will fall through the floor if they can’t borrow money to make interest payments. Others are saying that they need to raise it just one more time, permanently. They must really think we’re gullible.

John Boehner, the new Speaker of the House, is telling freshmen Republicans to grow up and vote for the debt cap increase:

“Whether we like it or not, the federal government has obligations and we have obligations on our part.” He recently told reporters.

Of course, what he really means is that we must raise the debt limit in order to keep our unconstitutional undeclared wars going. We must raise the debt limit so we can continue nation building around the world. We must raise the debt limit to keep U.S. troops in over 140 countries as we maintain and grow our empire.

Cut spending and follow the Constitution??? Are you kidding? We just said we would do all that to get elected you silly tea partiers.

I know it’s a little soon to jump to conclusions but I think it’s a safe bet to say that the majority of the “conservatives” who were elected to congress will vote to raise the debt cap. If I’m wrong I’ll post an apology blog and send them some nice thank you letters.

After attending last night’s tea party meeting I have to say that I am a little concerned about the mood. While most members did oppose raising the debt cap, the passion was gone. I thought I sensed some trust. I hope that trust goes away when congress votes to shovel more debt on our kids. I am still as angry and upset as I ever was about the economic issues that are destroying our country. I am starting to notice a disturbing trend in the local group. I hear more talk about morality and religion (another rant for another time) than the core values that brought the Flagstaff tea party together in the first place . I don’t sense the anger anymore. Are members pacified because Republicans were elected? I sure hope not.

Please call your representative and tell them that now is the time to cut spending.  Now is the time to shrink the size of government. Now is the time to follow through on those campaign promises.They probably won’t listen but we have to keep applying pressure.

I close with an excellent article by Ron Paul:

Don’t Raise The Debt Ceiling!


    January 5, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Great post Elisha. I’ve got the same concerns with the dynamics of our Tea Party in Happy Jack. The elections are over & some think our work is done. Far from it, our work has just begun. We must maintain our passion & momentum to win 2012.

  2. January 5, 2011 at 10:52 pm


    Great post!

    John Boehner is one of the old guard ruling class republicans types we in the Tea Party tried to vote out of office. He, like all the other old guards cave when dealing with the left, publicity, or dealing with Constitutional principles. The name of the game, as Mark Levine would say, is to win. If you compromise with the left you play into their hands and they win. The only reaching across the aisle in congress for true Constitutional Conservatives is to grab the left by their scrawny little socialist, marxist necks and tell them to sit down and shut up, or get out of Washington.

    If I were leader of the house, some of the rules would have to be that every bill shall pass a Constitutional test. It would have to be a single issue bill, written in specific terms — no open ended clauses for some Tzar to regulate, common English language that an 8th grader could read and understand, it would have to be posted on the Web for at least 72 hours before voting on it, for public scrutiny, there shall not be any amendments (pork) added with the exception of up to 10 amendments to repeal 10 unconstitutional bills that were passed,and it would have to be read to the legislators before voting on them.

    Sure, that would slow the process down. But the Congress is not supposed to be legislating our freedoms away or give out charity. Their job is appropriate funds, defend the Constitution and keep their Oaths of office.

    We need to keep an eye and an ear open and scrutinize every legislator in Washington, in the our State, our County and our Local government, give praise to those who do good and live by the Constitution, and expose and damn those who don’t pass muster.

    Forget about even thinking of raising the debt ceiling and to Hell with Moodys ratings. We need to slash adn burn all spending and LOWER the debt ceiling. Every department’s budget in the government should be slashed 10% across the board, get rid of the Federal Reserve and print our own U.S. Notes (like Kennedy started to do before he was shot by…), bring back gold and silver as our medium of exchange, spend no more than is taken in, get rid of the IRS, bring all our troops back, stay out of foreign entanglements, incentivize industry and manufacturing to return to America, and get regulations off the backs of our entrepreneurs and businessmen so they can produce, thus hire, thus become prosperous, get rid of subsidies, etc., etc., etc. This way everyone will prosper.

    Another thing the legislature can do, after repealing Obamacare, is pass a bill requiring all recipients of welfare, or unemployment to work to earn their checks. If they’re offered a job, they must take it. If all they can get is a job slinging hamburgers, or cleaning toilets for a janitorial service for minimum wage, then so be it. They should have to take the job and be reimbursed for the difference between what they make at minimum wage and what they are entitled to from their welfare or unemployment benefits.

    They should investigate all Tzars and their Unconstitutional mandates. Only Congress can make laws, not Tzars.

    One last thing Congress can do is to investigate why the Obama Administration is not protecting our borders. I would like to be able to reclaim that 70 miles of stretch along our Arizona border that Obama has given over to the Mexico, the Drug Cartels and the illegals.

    It may have seemed like I got off subject, but all these recommendations can help reduce the debt and lower the debt ceiling, significantly.


  3. j
    January 8, 2011 at 5:35 am

    this is the article.
    why not suspect the powers used the t’s , and will now coopt new members with cool aid.
    list all cfr members.
    educate about the fed.
    conspiracy facts=righteous anger.

    excellent reply , Gus.

  4. January 8, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Neoconservatives have been trying to hijack the tea party since the start. Now that Republicans are in, we’ll see who the real tea partiers are and who was angry just because they didn’t like Democrats in power.

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